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Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@onepict @chaos.social

@CryptPad what is your LLM policy?

Enquiring minds would like to know.

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Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@onepict @chaos.social

@CryptPad

In 2025 I can see that project members were not interested in AI
forum.cryptpad.org/d/2447-ai-i

But also with a kind of we don't have time to review.

forum.cryptpad.org/d/2527-feed

At a time when many of us are looking for alternative tools that are explicitly not developed with LLMs, it would be nice to have a formal policy.

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CryptPad
@CryptPad @social.xwiki.com

Hello @onepict

Thanks for your interest in CryptPad and its development.

So far we don’t have any AI-policy, however as a NLNet-funded project, we are following the NLNet AI policy 1.1: nlnet.nl/foundation/policies/g

It allows for responsible and transparent use of AI-tools without degrading quality, clarity and maintainability. It has been recently updated to a 2.0 version only allowing read-only use of AI-tools. CryptPad is still compliant with it.

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@CryptPad @social.xwiki.com

@onepict

For the sake of transparency, CryptPad is using AI for security analysis ahead of releases to catch oversights, but the fixes are written and reviewed by our developers.

We are planning to make a survey to our end-user and developers to know their stance about the use of AI-tools in the development and plan to publish soon a temporary AI policy to clarify how it has been so far and our future plans.

CryptPad
@CryptPad @social.xwiki.com

@onepict

On another note, the forum posts you linked to refers to AI-features in the product. Due to the way AI is working nowadays, we have no plan so far to integrate AI features in CryptPad in the foreseable future as it will go against the principle of end-to-end encryption.

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@onepict @chaos.social

@CryptPad thank you for taking the time to answer this question.

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CryptPad
@CryptPad @social.xwiki.com

@onepict you’re welcome!

As we said in a previous message, we described our position in a blogpost: blog.cryptpad.org/2026/11/10/T

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@onepict @chaos.social

@CryptPad thank you for being so thorough and open about this in your blog post.

I did wonder how much your fiscal home would affect Cryptpad development so this clears it up.

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Anthony
@abucci @buc.ci
@onepict@chaos.social
From their blog post:
While as citizens we are concerned about the risks associated with AI usage and negative externalities, both at our level and for society in general, we also have to evaluate the positive benefits AI can bring to small teams and to our end goals.

We believe we need to keep an open mind and study all aspects before deciding on a final policy.
This is alarming. It suggests they are not clear about their values in the project, which is one of the vulnerabilities being exploited by AI boosters.
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Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
@onepict @chaos.social

@abucci With the current choices by Libreoffice and Colabora to use LLMs, it is concerning.

Especially to those of us who are extremely concerned by the ethical implications and also just don't want LLM produced code in our lives.

It is being forced in everywhere.

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Anthony
@abucci @buc.ci
@onepict@chaos.social Oof, I wasn't aware that Colabora was embracing LLMs too (I don't use it or follow the project).

Somewhat tangentially it seems to me we're seeing an uptick in projects stating "We have no AI features in the software but use AI to produce code, tests, bug reports, ...". That seems to be where a bunch of folks who have concerns about AI but don't want to stop using it are settling.
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mirabilos🐈‍⬛
@mirabilos @toot.mirbsd.org

@abucci @onepict that makes the resulting work an unlicenced plagiate though

@CryptPad I appreciate this clear answer. I wish more projects were as clear and forthcoming about this.

@onepict

@CryptPad@social.xwiki.com @onepict@chaos.social This is a reasonable baseline, but as far as I'm concerned as soon as somebody uses an LLM to write a single character of code, the future licensing of that product becomes questionable.
Use tools to find security vulns, sure, (with an aim to use in-house solutions instead of paying some white american billionaires for their monstrosities), but please please I beg you to continue writing and reviewing the fixes with developers so we know the license of the product is safe!