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NetBSD Foundation 🚩
@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

Some #NetBSD questions that keep coming up.

We don't use modules for HW drivers in the default install. All baked into the kernel. If you're curious about desktop hardware, for x86 there are lists wiki.netbsd.org/laptops/ wiki.netbsd.org/gpus/ (and the pci/usb manual pages)

x86 virtual machines. netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-

For disk encryption there's different options, such as creating a small root with the installer, then adding encrypted partitions later (see man cgdconfig). Also: cgdroot.

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Running commercial games? It is possible, but you'll probably have better luck with DRM-free indie games. washbear.neocities.org/valhalla

No audio output? It is possible your default device or output DAC needs to be changed, see the instructions on netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-

WireGuard® VPNs? See the EXAMPLES section of man.netbsd.org/wg.4

ZFS? Yes, we are using it in production. No, it isn't the same branch as Linux or FreeBSD.

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@netbsd is there a way to do remote-unlocked (over ssh) NetBSD on full disk encrypted ZFS

NetBSD Foundation 🚩
@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

@freya probably with chroots.

@netbsd hmmm. so there's no actual structure for it. unfortunate

happyborg
@happyborg @fosstodon.org

@netbsd I know very little about this area.

Does having all drivers in the kernel cause bloat, and limit device support? Is this likely to be changed?

NetBSD Foundation 🚩
@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

@happyborg depends what you consider bloat.

$ du -h /netbsd
28M /netbsd

that's amd64. our biggest kernel.

there's certainly advantages to not loading networking drivers as modules (easier to fetch files over a network to recover a broken system)

but there are others who prefer the modular approach. or prefer not to use GENERIC, maybe because they have less than 64mb RAM.

i don't see how it would limit device support.

AnalogFeelings :therian_otherkin_flag: :verifiedbigender2:
@analog_feelings @tech.lgbt

@netbsd @happyborg is there a mechanism to dynamically load modules?

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@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

@analog_feelings @happyborg yes, of course, but many users won't ever need to

Leeloo
@leeloo @c.im
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Kernel wireguard is marked experimental. Wouldn't an end user be better off with wireguard-go for now?

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nia
@washbear @mastodon.sdf.org

@leeloo @netbsd marked experimental for legal reasons, the same reason it's called wg and not WireGuardⓇ

linear cannon
@linear @nya.social
@washbear@mastodon.sdf.org @leeloo@c.im @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org if it helps, i've been using it to connect cloud routers together for a hobby ASN for about two and a half years, and to connect into that ASN from Linux and NetBSD clients alike, with essentially zero reliability issues.
SackOfBones (any/all) :anarchist_flag:
@sackofbones @kolektiva.social

@netbsd You can also get drm free games from GOG, I'm particularly enjoying Mechanicus currently

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@x44203 @cuties.social

@netbsd Is the ZFS branch compatible with Linux / FreeBSD in so far that you can zfs send / recv between them?

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Techokami
@techokami @woof.tech

@x44203 @netbsd yes, can confirm. You just need to make sure to not use feature flags as that can cause incompatabilities. When in doubt, make the volume on NetBSD!

NetBSD Foundation 🚩
@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

imagine if the official linux foundation account helped you with your wifi

Christian
@sangyye @chaos.social

@netbsd man, this is service 🥳

Stefano Marinelli
@stefano @mastodon.bsd.cafe

@netbsd that's why people donate to the NetBSD Foundation while BigTechs to the Linux Foundation.

Sure, I'm exaggerating here. But not that much 😉

Chad McCullough
@chadmccullough @bsd.cafe
Neville Park
@nev @status.nevillepark.ca

@netbsd I have a question: I have an old netbook with a 32-bit bootloader and 64-bit system (x86_64), because it is basically a shitty tablet in laptop form. Debian used to support this ("mixed-mode EFI", I think) but no longer does. I don't suppose NetBSD does?

NetBSD Foundation 🚩
@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

@nev we definitely have a 32-bit efi loader, i don't know if it can load a 64-bit kernel though.

Simon Forman
@carapace @mastodon.social

@netbsd ❤️!

@netbsd oh come on, @NetworkManager was seen not only fixing people's wifi, but also debugged pppoe trouble and administered remedy for substance withdrawal symptoms on at least one occasion

@netbsd @NetworkManager and i'm sure the linux foundation president would help you with your wifi if you asked

and if you also run macos x

NetworkManager
@NetworkManager @floss.social

@lkundrak @netbsd
a foundation account has governance, I only have a dbus socket and no supervision.

NetBSD Foundation 🚩
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@NetworkManager @lkundrak become ungovernable

David JONES
@drj @typo.social

@netbsd yes, but @bytex64 needs help with their partitions: awesome.garden/@bytex64/117457

Chip @bytex64@awesome.garden

Oh uh… hmm. Turns out my partitioning shenanigans weren’t recognized and the installer tried to install to its own disk, with disastrous results.

The NetBSD installer running out of disk space.
The NetBSD installer running out of disk space.
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Chip
@bytex64 @awesome.garden

@drj @netbsd Hah, don’t worry about me. I’ll figure it out. I just don’t have a lot of time to work on it right now. :)

mirabilos🐈‍⬛
@mirabilos @toot.mirbsd.org

@netbsd they’re too busy redefining FOSS licencing as “AI companies are allowed to do everything with no reprise, and if you disagree, you lose the right to use the stuff yourself”

@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org
Could probably take the "with your WiFi" out to be honest, and "account"

"imagine if the official linux foundation helped you"

Anyway - thanks to all the amazing work! I hope the influx of new users isn't becoming burdensome with repeated requests and "XYZ doesn't work!!" messages... We the community will try to pitch in where we can!

We appreciate you!

@netbsd is there an equivalent to NetworkManager?

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NetBSD Foundation 🚩
@netbsd @mastodon.sdf.org

@efi i don't really know much about NetworkManager so i can't really answer this question. wikipedia says it's a daemon that configures network interfaces. on netbsd dhcpcd does this.

@netbsd yay! looking forward to trying bsd then

TronNerd82
@TronNerd82 @mastodon.social
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