Post by @paul
To finish out the evening, I played some more Road Rash. It's pretty relaxing actually, kinda similar to the flow state I might get into with Tetris.
It was also the perfect pastime until Outer Wilds had finished downloading. Both @Sobtanian and @joel have recommended it highly and I'm finally gonna play it... tomorrow. π
I was so convinced too, that I already owned the game, but as always, it was actually Outer Worlds I got from an Epic give-away. But the game and its DLC are half of their pretty reasonable prices in the Steam autumn sale, so I went for it.
Very excited to get into it. I've got my notebook ready. π€©
@irgndsondepp @Sobtanian I'm sure that @jp and @theTangentSpace will follow your career with great interest as well
Alright, here we go. Outer Wilds mega-thread starts here. π
I'll hide everything by default, because I don't want to spoil the experience, even if I don't yet know where all of this is going yet.
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I've only played a bit more than an hour so far, but I've managed to land my ship once properly and crash it a bunch of more times.
My very first expedition took me to the launch cannon orbiting Giant's Deep. I was actually looking for Gabbro on the planet itself, but got distracted by "Oooh shiny". As I didn't understand that I could dock my ship, I merely brought it close and went the rest of the way in my space suit. I guess the logs there are supposed to be cryptic, but together with what I learned from the Observatory back on Timber Hearth, I'm pretty sure that the Nomai were looking for the center of the universe β The Eye β with this probe launcher. And I'm very proud of myself, for figuring out that what you see when you wake up is the probe being launched. I only had to die twice to put it together. π
Speaking about dying... I said I didn't dock the ship, so i t drifted away quite a bit. When I tried to get back to it, I got distracted by another "Oooh what's that?" and got shot into nothing. My little guy ended up suffocating in the middle of nowhere, far away from anything and everything. π¬
On Giant's Deep I found a way into the statue workshop. And now I understand how the statues work and that they record memories. Well... I haven't figured out yet, why it affects my player character and why I can travel through time, back to the launch of the probe. But I'm sure that'll make sense eventually.
I'm taking a lot of notes, but I'm not sure yet if I have to? The ship log seems pretty well equipped to track interesting stuff.
Now let's see if I can find Gabbro already.
...
I think I just had a wild thought. Check my image descriptions to find it. I have an idea about how the memories get recorded for the statues.
Also... Who launched the probe, when all Nomai are supposed to be dead for aeons? π€
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I explored some more, this time uncovering mining site 2B on Timber Hearth and finding an ominous warp travel Dark Bramble that seems to have swallowed the long missing Feldspar's harmonica.
I've managed to "survive" long enough twice (as in not killing myself by doing stupid shit). The second time I was on the twin planets and that's where it hit me that the sun is dying and that's the hard limit. It's beautiful... but scary. π¬
And the music is just mesmerizing. I bought the Soundtrack on a whim, but now that I listen to it, I'm happy that I got it.
I found a crashed Nomai ship next to a distress beacon and a quantum anomaly stone, so I have two new signals to track through the solar system.
I also landed in a giant volcano moon and on The Interloper. Not sure if there's anything to be done on Interloper, but the atmosphere is scary as shit. π¨
I learned first hand that you shouldn't fall into the core of Brittle Hollow. I found the white anomaly first, so I knew immediately where I went and that I wouldn't see my ship again. π
I also found Gabbro and a few more travelers on other planets, including lunar station.
I love flying around. Everything is very janky, but that feels just right for this duct taped together space vessel. π
And I've gotten pretty good at it.
Just at the end of my last run, I was exploring a Nomai temple on the usually quite sandy twin planet, but just when I was starting to translate the ancient text, the sun exploded.
I know that the Nomai built something here, some kind of research station, but I haven't figured out how to get into it yet.
I love this game already. π€©
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Okay, theory time!!!
Here's what I think, given the information I got so far.
- I'm now convinced, that my player avatar is acting as a camera for the Nomai memory statues. There's this one line, where a Nomai describes the cameras as eerie or something like that. It sounds innocent at first, but I don't think the rational and scientific Nomai would be bothered by a static camera object being attached around them. Very sure we're talking about living beings.
- The Nomai are actually dead. I was wondering if they were still around, but I don't think they just hang around invisibly. They wouldn't care for their memory statues to be broken apart and transported between planets.
- If we take that as true, it means the Nomai couldn't have launched the probe. Someone else must have done that.
Now here's a stretch, but Feldspar has been missing in action forever. Maybe he got stuck in the time loop and got so frustrated, that he launched the probe, triggering the end of the universe. Or he didn't know that would happen (unlikely if he's like me) and he was just curious where the probe would go.
This is the point where I should admit that I've listened to the Watch out for Fireballs episode about Outer Wilds. I promise that I can't remember anything that was said, but maybe my subconscious picked up on the ideas and is feeding them back to me.
Say or think what you will. For all intents and purposes I'm playing the game blind, because I have zero idea where to go, what to do and I'm 100% honest when I say that all these are just theories. They just feel surprisingly right to me. π€
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I finally got to explore Brittle Hollow a bit and wouldn't you know... I was sucked into the black hole again. And as I was drifting along, I caught sight of a strange thing near the white hole: White Hole Station.
HOLY SHIT YOU CAN WARP!!!
And not only that, but you gain a microsecond when you do it. π€
Now I wonder where the other stations are. And I heard rumors about Sun Station, but I don't know if the Nomai ever built it.
I visited two of the crashed escape pods again and found a way into one of the twin planets. And there I'm currently stuck in a temple built for The Eye. Looks like a dead end to me. π
And I was wrong about the center of the universe. The Eye is a signal! Older than the universe!! π€―
I'm slowly starting to unravel the timeline of the Nomai's project.
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Today I decided to follow the duplicate signal of the probe I shot into the Dark Bramble seed on Timber Hearth. Unsurprisingly, it led me to Dark Bramble. Also unsurprisingly, this is where I found Feldspar just hanging out in a giant Anglerfish skeleton. I haven't seen any of these things alive and I really don't want to either. π¬
After having talked to him, Feldspar is off my list as the one who launches the Nomai probe. I have no more suspects. π
Dark Bramble is scary, confusing and hurts my brain. I'm very sure there's more to do here, maybe even find the Nomai vessel somewhere, but not right now.
I also did some more exploring on the Ash and Ember Twins. Sun Station confirmed!!!
Oh and I found the deep space satellite and via that the radio station back on Timber Hearth. And a suspicious unknown object that can only be seen from a certain angle. π€
And I also accidentally crashed into the satellite and took the space travel map offline. I couldn't stop laughing for a minute when I hit it and the message came up. π€£
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I tried to land on the Quantum Moon a few times, but I'm missing the final piece of the puzzle and I still haven't been in the Knowledge tower.
But, I did unfreeze and enter the Nomai ship that crashed on The Interloper and afterwards explored the icy depths of the comet. Freaky shit! Is this where the ghost matter comes from? I wonder what this is. Or is the comet maybe a leftover from the planet that the Dark Bramble exploded?
Funny thing, I only put together that the ship you recall to Ember Twin is the one stuck on the comet, because I had that ship marked as my next objective on the HUD. And suddenly it popped into existence right in front of me. π€―
I finally found the Southern Observatory (hauntingly beautiful) and discovered how to sink below the strong current on Great Deep. Honestly.... I studied physics and it should have been obvious. When I saw the experiment, I immediately got it, even before my eyes registered that one of the hurricanes was rotating counter-clockwise. Still, a worthwhile trip, because the place really is beautiful.
But now I'm confronted with a barrier of electricity around Great Deep's core. I know I have to leverage the jellyfish somehow, but haven't figured out how yet. π€
Oh, oh, ooooh!!! And I learned how I can "fast travel" with the Quantum Stones. That is such a cool trick. π€©
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I should add some of the pictures I took.
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Holy! What were they doing!?
I finally made it into the High Energy Lab on Ember Twin. I already figured out that the towers on Ash Twin warp you to different planets. One of them should warp to Sun Station too, but I haven't found it or it's broken... or it only works at a specific time? π€
But, but, but... the warps mess with time, right? And if you add energy, you get more time back. And a supernova is practically infinite energy. So... Is that how the time loop works? 22 minutes? If so... who triggered it?
Theoretically, there's a chance to withstand the supernova. Maybe I should just chill out in the High Energy lab? I'll have to do some digging and then see if I can survive. But... how do I get back then? π€
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I reproduced the time warp experiment. That is really neat. It's a videogame, so you can tell exactly how they did it, but the idea is still hella cool.
I had to fly to Ember Twin again though, because just when I discovered the little telekinetic ball thingy, the room filled with sand. π
I then flew over to Ash Twin and finally managed to fly through all the cacti to get to the Sun Station warp point. And then I died, because Sun Station is obviously the first one to go. Well, better luck next time. π€£
I love this game so much. π₯°
This was made for me.
Edit: Gotta say, it was very cinematic, when I just translated "Warning, increased solar activity" on the Nomai pillar in the Sun Station and then everything ended. π
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There's still so much to discover. I'm like 100% sure that you'll laugh at me, but I just now discovered that the Interloper crashing into the Sun is what triggers the supernova. I had a hunch when I saw that green volatile stuff below the surface and when I checked the trajectory... yeah, it flies awfully close around the ever growing Sun.
I basically put that together when I made it to Sun Station and read that the station was built to fire something at the sun, but the experiment didn't work. Oh... And that means that the orbital probe launcher is not responsible for the end of the universe. But is the launch a coincidence? A call for help? From The Eye? π€
Next, I made another trip (well, a few...) into Dark Bramble. I tracked the final distress signal and not only did I find a bunch of dead Nomai, but I also found The Vessel β’οΈ !!!! I noticed the broken Warp Core and after exploring the Hanging City on Brittle Hollow, I have an idea of what I might be able to do. I just haven't found a way into the Black Hole Forge yet.
In other, unrelated news, I finally managed to land on the Quantum Moon! Yay!!! π₯³
I had the right idea from the start, but the picture I took with the probe wasn't good enough. I crashed the probe into the moon, instead of taking a picture from space. The last thing I tried was making my way to the north pole, but it seems blocked off, no matter which planet the moon is orbiting. Changing that is also a prime way of losing your ship, as I learned. π
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@irgndsondepp gotta love the theories building up, the puzzle revealing slowly...
Also, you should have all the rules by now... I'm sure you can figure something out
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@irgndsondepp btw quick tip! The astronauts have more to say when you discover more things, so tell them about it!
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@joel Good idea. I do that every now and then, but I should maybe do another round.
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@irgndsondepp another thing mate...
Some of the information you've stored, some of the theories you've formed...
You may have misinterpreted some of it. Or they may have been developed in a rush and lead to a lot of confusion later.
Make sure to take some loops to just chill, read through logs. Do some marshmallows, or even take an actual break.
This game could quickly turn into a convoluted mess. Don't let that happen
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@joel@fosstodon.org @irgndsondepp@gts.da-miez.de @jp@polymaths.social @theTangentSpace@mathstodon.xyz yup yup yup
Maybe have a look around while leading up to the actual supernova and see if you notice anything familiar
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@paul @joel @irgndsondepp @jp @theTangentSpace
I agree. Slow down my friend.
If only because, once itβs over, itβs over (I know youβve got the DLC but still) and enjoy the ride because youβll never get to do it again for the first time, and everyone here will tell you they wish they could forget it all and start again.
Also donβt forget to tag me in your updates, I keep missing some. Maybe if you slow down I wonβt π
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@Sobtanian @paul @joel @jp @theTangentSpace I'll have to slow down anyway, now that I have to work again. π
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@irgndsondepp@gts.da-miez.de @Sobtanian@mstdn.games @joel@fosstodon.org @jp@polymaths.social @theTangentSpace@mathstodon.xyz One of the greatest moments of understanding I had in this game was just drifting in space.
It was great because I was just taking a break, waiting for the next loop and looking at the beautiful void. Then I noticed something that helped me understand.
π²π½