Post by @paul

Web browser package availability in #NetBSD challenge. Go!

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@paul palemoon is already in pkgsrc, and librewolf is there in wip

@tfb@bsd.cafe nice!

@tfb @paul also, several of these are the same browser

@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org @tfb@bsd.cafe I am aware of that fact, and I appreciate the restriction of custom forks in NetBSD buuuuuut I am drawing my line against Mozilla. I cannot in good conscience use their actual browser - using a custom fork is the way I tell Mozilla I do not appreciate what they have done to Firefox.
I am aware of how this could be perceived as irony, but it is not.

@paul @tfb please try palemoon, it is one of the few truly independent browsers and also one of the few browsers capable of displaying mastodon.sdf.org that accepts patches to support netbsd upstream.

@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org @tfb@bsd.cafe thanks. I will - think I tried it a few years back.
Am I right in thinking it's the one based on the pre-"Quantum" Firefox? Or have I got confused with something else?

@paul @netbsd @tfb For the no AI-ers among us there is a PaleMoon/SeaMonkey extension called "Search Engine Editor" that allows adding custom search engines.

I use that extension to add the No AI version of DuckDuckGo to both PaleMoon and SeaMonkey.

@the_wub@mastodon.social @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org @tfb@bsd.cafe it's been a while since I used that particular flavour/version (I.e. pre-quantum) of FF and forks, but can't we just change search engines in the config like we still can rather than an extension? Could have sworn I was doing that back in 2012 but I could be wrong!

@paul @netbsd @tfb PaleMoon seems to be forked from a point when you used to go to The Mycroft Project to download and "install" a search engine to get a specific search engine. Editing search engines in both vanilla PaleMoon and SeaMonkey is extremely limited.

Heh! Mycroft is still there and there seems to be a DDG No AI plugin but it seems to be Firefox only.

@the_wub@mastodon.social @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org @tfb@bsd.cafe yeah, I remember those days, but still convinced I used to do it manually.
Well, I'll find out when I actually install it I guess! 🤣

@paul @netbsd @tfb Well let me know how you go on as I couldn't find another way round the issue for both PaleMoon and SeaMonkey!

Maybe there is a how-to from the old days explaing how to write your own search engine add-on in the right format to install in those browsers?

@the_wub@mastodon.social @netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org @tfb@bsd.cafe I will. Think the OpenSearch spec was around then and I can't see why Firefox of old, of all things, wouldn't support it. But, as I say, it's been over 10 years since using that particular browser interface so we will see!

@netbsd@mastodon.sdf.org @paul@paulwilde.uk @tfb@bsd.cafe I was thinking of checking out what this thing is, but it seems things aren't quite as good on #FreeBSD.🤣

@xiaotuolu @netbsd @paul The more niche, the more care is taken with palemoon, maybe? It comes as part of a standard Tribblix installation