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Drew DeVault
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Need a logo for #AlpineBSD, any artsy types want to take a crack at it?

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@drew i wonder, has anybody ever asked #NetBSD to reconsider the "core can approve slop" clause, or to publish some info on whether core has approved #slop so far?

sounds quite cool though! I'm still hoping somebody might fork an older #Linux #kernel - might be hard to keep that going but it would send a sign.

#LLM #NoSlop #ensloppification #AI #NoAI #FreeSoftware #FOSS #FLOSS #OpenSource

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@ell1e @drew They have not done so since the policy was clarified in 2024.

Anyway, it needs clarifying again, since there's some third-party code we're not necessarily ready to remove, upstream has accepted AI contributions, it needs updates, and the decision between shipping slop and shipping vulnerable code to users is a huge catch-22.

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@netbsd @drew well, you could always write a manual fix for an AI reported vulnerability. so I don't think shipping slop is required for that either.

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@ell1e @drew we unfortunately don't have the resources to fork and take over maintenance of large software projects like Postfix and BIND, but thankfully they are entirely optional.

their choices also advance the argument for having a smaller base system by default.

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If Postfix and BIND are doing the thing, there may soon not be much of a Net for NetBSD to connect to… 😬

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@argv_minus_one @netbsd @drew replacing a DNS server is much less work than a kernel.

regarding email servers, it seems exim bans AI? but haven't really looked into that one yet and how portable it is

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@ell1e @argv_minus_one @drew We can't have new GPL in base.

dma is promising and simple enough that we likely wouldn't have problems maintaining it. leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-

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Hmm? Wouldn't an email server fall under the GPL's “mere aggregation” clause?

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